Tribe.net. Local Connections Chris http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/51b86232-384b-44a0-b424-25f1662caf53 2007-06-30T14:47:04Z 2007-06-30T14:47:04Z

<div>from the Virtual Tales website: <br/> <br/>Ripper Days of Summer <br/> <br/>Terms: Buy the eBook or eSerial version of the award-winning Jack the Ripper tale "Sojourn" for just $6.95 AND get a FREE subscription to our new Jack the Ripper serial, "In the Autumn of the Unfortunates," as soon as it becomes available. Limit one per customer, please! <br/> <br/>First Anniversary Celebration: <br/>End Game Promotion <br/> <br/>We'd like to give you one last chance to buy any of the promotions we offered this month by clicking on the links below between now and 11:59 p.m. Pacific Daylight Time on Saturday, June 30, 2007. And don't forget that everyone who makes a purchase during June or signs up for a free trial to any of our eSerials will be entered into a drawing to win a complete set of every Virtual Tales eBook and/or eSerial. <br/> <br/>"Sojourn" won a 2007 Gold IPPY award for Science Fiction, and was named Editor's Choice in Science Fiction in the 2007 Foreword of the Year Awards. It is a well-researched and entertaining tale of time travel set against the backdrop of the Whitechapel Murders (Jack the Ripper). "In the Autumn of the Unfortunates" tells the story of Jack the Ripper as seen through the eyes of painter Walter Sickert. Though history named him as a later-day suspect, Sickert was not implicated in the crimes at the time. <br/> <br/> <br/>check out more information here: <br/> <br/>http://www.virtualtales.com/endgame.html</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 0 replies </div>

Chris 2007-06-30T14:47:04Z Dex http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/df09d889-0adc-4639-8e61-1e6c78045e33 2007-03-26T06:15:19Z 2004-08-29T15:44:11Z

<div>Has anyone read the account of James Maybrick and his so-called "Ripper" diaries? <br/> <br/>I don't know what to think. The discovery of this diary seems spurious, but the writer's knowledge of the details about the murders presents evidence. Still, they might be little more than a record of a rich and lurid fantasy life of a man who feels betrayed by his wife. <br/> <br/>Do they rely too heavily upon linking the diary to the contested Ripper letters?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 6 replies </div>

Dex 2004-08-29T15:44:11Z K http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/2b455aaf-6511-441d-b827-40c4d87bde2a 2007-03-26T06:12:35Z 2004-03-16T23:11:04Z

<div>I wanted to see what you guys think of the Ripper letters, particularly the "Dear Boss" and "From Hell" letters. Do you think either of them was from the killer, neither and why? I've posted the letters in the photos section.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 20 replies </div>

K 2004-03-16T23:11:04Z Poster_Boy http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/2a46904d-fca3-4664-967d-b1a67bca2779 2007-02-09T16:52:06Z 2007-02-09T16:52:06Z

<div>This is from my blog, where there is a computerized picture of Jack the Ripper. <br/> <br/>http://people.tribe.net/poster_boy/blog/d7e7e8fb-a7c8-468d-8bcb-289671b33695 <br/> <br/>LONDON (AFP) - Jack the Ripper was short, stocky and about 30 years old -- "frighteningly normal" -- according to a profile of the notorious Victorian-era killer published using state-of-the-art technology. <br/> <br/>In the profile, the man who strangled and butchered five London prostitutes looks probably very different from the man authorities were searching for at the time, police said Monday. <br/> <br/> <br/>Laura Richards, head of analysis for the Metropolitan Police's Violent Crime Command, has drawn up what is believed to be the most accurate portrait of the murderer after analyzing evidence from the case using modern police techniques. <br/> <br/> <br/>She claims that the evidence from 118 years ago shows that the ripper was between 25 and 35 years old, had a stocky build, and stood between five feet five inches and five feet seven inches tall. <br/> <br/> <br/>The evidence can also likely locate where he lived. <br/> <br/> <br/>"For the first time, we are able to understand the kind of person Jack the Ripper was," said Richards, who in the past has studied serial killer Fred West and Ian Huntley, who murdered two girls. <br/> <br/> <br/>"We can name the street where he probably lived and we can see what he looked like; and we can explain, finally, why this killer eluded justice," Richards said. <br/> <br/> <br/>Working alongside former Metropolitan Police commander John Grieve, she assembled experts like pathologists, historians and a geographical profiler to understand why the case was never solved and to see whether it still could be. <br/> <br/> <br/>"This is further than anyone else has got. It would have been enough for coppers to get out and start knocking on doors... they would have got him," Grieve said. <br/> <br/> <br/>Drawing on modern experience, the experts studied his legend, analyzed the Ripper's crimes and retraced his steps while examining 13 different witness statements taken at the time of the killings. <br/> <br/> <br/>The details produced a picture of someone who was "perfectly sane, frighteningly normal, and yet capable of extraordinary cruelty," Richards said. <br/> <br/> <br/>Grieve added: "It's a popular misconception that nobody ever saw the murderer, that he just vanished into the fog of London. Well that's just not right. There were witnesses at the time who were highly thought of by the police. <br/> <br/> <br/>"If we were doing this investigation today, we could pool together all these descriptions and the kind of face that the police were clearly looking for. You could come up with a composite and you can go beyond just a full face, you can get something that really helps the police to look for suspects." <br/> <br/> <br/>The results of the study will be broadcast on the Five television channel on Tuesday. <br/> <br/> <br/>In January this year, Jack the Ripper was voted Britain's most hated individual in a BBC poll, which described him as the forerunner of modern serial killers. </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 0 replies </div>

Poster_Boy 2007-02-09T16:52:06Z K http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/566527be-6f96-4b27-9f63-0c4d036be85f 2006-03-15T07:53:25Z 2004-04-23T00:57:06Z

<div>A while back Chris asked what my theory was for who committed the Whitechapel Murders. I said I'd tell him but that I wanted to get my ducks in a row, so to speak, before I said anything. I thought instead of just my spouting off, we could all chime in and say what our theory is. Should make for some interesting conversation. <br/> <br/>So, we've got five prostitutes murdered in the East End of London in 1888. Each was strangled, then had their throat slit. All of the victims except for Liz Stride were mutilated, with the mutilations becoming more vicious with each murder. The first victim, Polly Nichols, had her abdomen sliced open while the last, Mary Jane Kelly, was butchered beyond the ability to recognize her as human. One victim, Liz Stride (again) was not mutilated. It is suspected that the killer was interrupted and only had time to strangle her and slit her throat. <br/> <br/>What do I think we have here? I think we're looking for a white male, in his 20s-30s. He was most likely a native of the East End or, at the very least, had lived there for a long time. I say that because of the way the killer was able to disappear through the maze of streets and back alleys that made up the East End. This was a man who was very, very comfortable in this territory. For this reason, I think we can rule out rich or upper-middle class men coming into Whitechapel and Spitalfields in search of a quick hook-up with a cheap whore. That's not to say these men didn't indulge in that sort of behavior, but I just don't think that men from that social strata would be that familiar with the East End. <br/> <br/>I think the killer was a combination of the Organized and Disorganized Serial Killer types as specified by the FBI. He was able to lure the victims to an out of the way place and hold himself together long enough to fool them that he was just another trick. He brought along his tool (a knife appropriate for his work). The disorganized aspects he displayed come up in the savagery of his mutilations. His mutilations of their genitals, abdomen and (in the case of the last two victims) their faces show an attempt to depersonalize the victim. This is classic disorganized behavior. <br/> <br/>I think the increasing savagery of the killings (check out the victims' photos posted in the photo section) shows that he was increasingly coming apart at the seams. The killing and mutilation of Mary Jane Kelly is beyond the pale. He may have killed himself. I believe the killings came to a halt after Kelly's death, because the police pulled their extra patrols off the street. The only time they do that is if the suspect is dead or incarcerated. <br/> <br/>So, having written this incredibly long post (and please, for the love of God people, somebody else post their theory too!), who do I think he was? I think there are two prime suspects based on the two best known possibilities. One is Montague John Druitt, a failed lawyer who committed suicide shortly after Kelly's murder. The other is Aaron Kosminski, a Polish Jew who immigrated to the East End to avoid the pogroms in Eastern Europe and who was committed to a mental hospital after Kelly died. <br/> <br/>Then again there is the possibility put forward by Donald Rumbelow, the note Ripper expert. He said that on judgment day when all of us who've tried to figure out who the killer is join and ask the killer to identify himself once and for all, there's a good possibility we'll all look at ourselves and say "Who's he?"</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 10 replies </div>

K 2004-04-23T00:57:06Z evildeadclown http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/de2006f1-ac06-4ddf-9af9-333a6f962676 2006-01-03T01:48:55Z 2006-01-03T01:48:55Z

<div>no more a pretty young whore <br/>with which the men can satiate <br/>the women accuse and adore <br/> <br/>best days behind you <br/>like the wall of the alley where you sold <br/>content, where seed was spent <br/> <br/>knees scabbed forever, lips stained red <br/>the rise and fall of your sagging chest <br/>sleeping undead <br/> <br/>what more can you offer, yet you continue to sell <br/>dried tears on your rouged cheeks <br/>at the shattered ball, you are the belle <br/> <br/>enjoy your last supper, bathe away your sorrow <br/>give us that scarred grin, whore <br/>this is your final tomorrow <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 0 replies </div>

evildeadclown 2006-01-03T01:48:55Z eric_c http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/4b6a2c93-4443-4317-af8c-faa737c55369 2005-12-05T06:44:30Z 2004-04-23T16:50:39Z

<div>...I've always been a fan of ol' Jack - purely as a morbid curiosity and folklore sort of way... and I've often loved many of the portrayals and stories which include him in the telling of the stories. <br/> <br/>I think one of the oddest sudden appearances by Jack in a story was on the TV show "Babylon 5" where he showed up as the inquisitor and tortured the main characters of the show... when it was finally revealed who he was, he lamented on how he'd been painted by history - losing all TRUE identity and becoming just this mythical figure in the night known as "Jack" <br/> <br/>Anyone else have a fun / cool "Jack" sighting in a novel / tv show / movie they'd like to share?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 9 replies </div>

eric_c 2004-04-23T16:50:39Z likeatiger http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/337c0927-32a5-4694-b99d-d6027c948b70 2005-11-29T14:34:30Z 2005-11-29T14:34:30Z

<div>i had no idea this group was here... awesome. <br/> <br/>lookin forward to talkin about saucy jack</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 0 replies </div>

likeatiger 2005-11-29T14:34:30Z evildeadclown http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/897850df-3c82-4c70-9649-6bb9562c81c9 2005-09-01T03:37:48Z 2005-09-01T03:37:48Z

<div> other than the mcfarlane figure, does anyone know of any figurines, posters, etc (other than books)?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 0 replies </div>

evildeadclown 2005-09-01T03:37:48Z http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/8902c5d8-049c-4d49-83d5-8003a46c9501 2005-07-14T14:03:50Z 2005-07-13T23:44:16Z

<div>I have not seen a post on here for quite some time-So thought to start it all up again-Question-Has anyone on here become member of Casebook site-and Two-Is it worth it?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 1 reply </div>

2005-07-13T23:44:16Z http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/75d98bcf-2717-4603-a658-6b89249e6c33 2005-04-08T19:48:42Z 2005-04-08T19:48:42Z

<div> <br/>So deoes anyone know anything about Mary Kelly ex lover and his connections to Ripper history. I think it is interesting that he was afreemason...anyone??</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 0 replies </div>

2005-04-08T19:48:42Z olivander http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/fb6ec6fa-7889-4d49-b205-6c125a877d3c 2004-12-03T23:02:28Z 2004-12-03T23:02:28Z

<div>Someone is selling on eBay a signed copy of James Kenneth Stephen's "Lapsus Calami". They're puffing up the Ripper angle, though I believe by now Stephen has been fairly well exhonerated as a suspect. Might be interesting to a serious collector of Ripperania. <br/> <br/>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;category=63666&amp;item=6937392035&amp;rd=1</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 0 replies </div>

olivander 2004-12-03T23:02:28Z K http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/0f12154a-70bf-45d5-bdf8-b1f5443516c9 2004-10-26T13:55:15Z 2004-03-13T02:42:40Z

<div>Thanks for the cool tribe, Demi. I guess a good place to start in discussing the case is how many victims do you think there were? Do you think that it was just the "Canonical Five" or were there more? If he started earlier than the recognized first victim or continued after killing Mary Jane Kelly, it would effect the possible suspects. What are your thoughts?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 24 replies </div>

K 2004-03-13T02:42:40Z demi http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/e325bed8-39a6-4833-bc9b-26339de15468 2004-08-08T18:30:51Z 2004-08-08T01:01:06Z

<div>Two noteworthy articles. <br/> <br/>http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/DailyNews/pt_ripper_011206.html <br/> <br/> <br/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,615413,00.html <br/> <br/> <br/>i'd also like to add that she did NOT 'rip up' the canvas, she only removed a section about the size of an inch for forensic testing... such language is used to hype this story up - and caused much furor in england a couple of years back when she wrote her novel. cornwell appeared on television and showed how she only removed a small section from the painting. <br/> <br/>this concerned me as i am an art historian myself and would hate to see history being destroyed. </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 2 replies </div>

demi 2004-08-08T01:01:06Z http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/1035e15f-612f-47af-a076-2b5a623160f6 2004-08-08T11:12:37Z 2004-07-21T23:55:54Z

<div>Yknow I have been thinking lately...if someone were to get a good team of medical investigators and enough money to back up the effort...I'll bet they could figure out who Jack was. If I had the money and resources I'd do it. <br/>Like that show Histories Dectectives...do you think if I wrote to them it might work? They seem to have uncovered and rewritten a lot of history with that show. <br/>Just an indulgence. <br/>I mean a if a team of Anthropoligists can dig up mummie and get enough bone marrow and DNA to make their facts stick...whats to say they couldn't do the same with the Ripper victums...I'll bet there is evidence there somewhere.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 14 replies </div>

2004-07-21T23:55:54Z Chris http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/08f2cd47-4285-4f96-8c14-e92359228f10 2004-07-23T03:09:55Z 2004-06-18T11:25:30Z

<div>I was just looking at a web site advertising a book that claims Francis Thompson, the Victorian poet, was Jack. Anyone else heard of this story? And what do you think of it. <br/> <br/>Apparently he is the only suspect who can match most of the descriptions of people seen near the victims, etc. <br/> <br/>Also, he wrote some poems, and a story, that are said to bear some similarities to the events. <br/>"The Ballad of the Witch Babies" and "Finit Coronet Opus." <br/> <br/>Like most of the theories, I think its a little far fetched or unlikely to believe that because someone writes a story about killing a woman, that they could actually have done the deed. But it is interesting nonetheless. <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 6 replies </div>

Chris 2004-06-18T11:25:30Z http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/793dd5d4-bdd8-49f8-ac19-832fe2fd3d04 2004-06-21T23:33:16Z 2004-06-19T22:54:53Z

<div>Seems to be the year for Jack! I just posted another Jack 'toy' picture-- This is from the McFarlane line of Monsters 3 6 Faces of Madness. If you want to see the others from the series: http://www.spawn.com/features/ <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 3 replies </div>

2004-06-19T22:54:53Z K http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/79e0ea48-d27d-4663-a46c-368c0988bbcd 2004-06-18T11:27:35Z 2004-04-25T13:04:02Z

<div>I thought we could start a discussion on the best and worst Ripper books we've read. <br/> <br/>My favorite "all-around" Ripper book is "The Complete Jack the Ripper" by Donald Rumbelow. This book came out in the 70s and hasn't been updated, mostly because it's still selling well and the publisher doesn't see a need for a new edition. This is a general history written by one of *the* experts on the case. It's definitely worth including in your library. <br/> <br/>Another great one is "Jack the Ripper: A-Z." This is basically an encyclopedia of the case. There are so any names, places and dates involved in the case that it can be a bitch to keep it all straight, so this book is an invaluable resource. <br/> <br/>Another book I'm really enjoying is "The Crimes, Detection and Death of Jack the Ripper" by Martin Fido. It's got really good maps of all five Canonical crime scenes and does a great job of giving the history, then offering a suspect that hadn't been suggested before. <br/> <br/>The worst is, of course, Patricia Cornwell adventure in faulty logic "Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper - Case Closed." Her attempts to pin the killings on Sickert are nothing short of laughable. I'd suggest reading this claptrap if you have a lot of spare time, there's nothing good on TV, you've walked the dog and need a good laugh.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 2 replies </div>

K 2004-04-25T13:04:02Z demi http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/89fb774e-3507-4026-b01e-a0d41040567d 2004-04-20T13:36:33Z 2004-04-20T13:36:33Z

<div>hello all... sorry i've been AWOL but i'd been the only member of this tribe for so long i'd forgotten i created it. i'm demi. i love jack the ripper and have a strange fascination with the case since moving to england. i go on the jack the ripper walk in london all the time when i am down there - and shoot the shit with the 'expert' tour guides in the pub after that makes for a good debate between us. the jack the ripper a to z is one of my fave books on the topic as it's non biased and factual and i don't really know who the ripper was but i'd like to think it was me in a past life. ha ha. ok. well thanks for posting pictures and being interested. i look forward to getting to know you all in the future. <br/> <br/>Ha Ha. ;) </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 0 replies </div>

demi 2004-04-20T13:36:33Z http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/b45fa2bb-ed2a-4ad3-9d7d-57195dadbbdb 2004-04-19T06:13:12Z 2004-03-25T22:25:59Z

<div>Ok...I'm just gonnia put this theory out there and see what happens....The Order of Golden Dawn had it's first initiation ceremony the night of the final killing...The OGD is an offset of the FreeMasons in England at that time. <br/>Has any one else looked into this...and no I'm not talking about "From Hell" movies version...I'm talking about the origanal members...Westcott, Mathers and W.B. Yeats....any takers??</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 10 replies </div>

2004-03-25T22:25:59Z K http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/17568a9a-609a-427c-9305-090a79291689 2004-04-14T10:43:00Z 2004-04-13T01:31:05Z

<div>Well, friends and neighbors, never let it be said that I'm not one to take my medicine. I posted earlier in this tribe, repeating what the noted Ripper expert Donald Rumbelow said about murder rates in the East End. Rumbelow said that there was one murder in the East End in 1887. Several of you challenged this and I agreed to do some research and report back. <br/> <br/>All I can say is report the words of the British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, when he said there are three types of lies. Lies, damned lies and statistics. That's the culprit here, mes amis, statistics. The flaw lies in the way the person who collected the data quoted in that report went about his work. I'll let you read the report for yourselves so I don't cloud the issue any further. <br/> <br/>http://casebook.org/dissertations/dst-statistical.html <br/> <br/>So, there we are. It just goes to show that numbers truly suck.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 5 replies </div>

K 2004-04-13T01:31:05Z eris http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/69e43ff8-020d-45d8-893b-a8f4d483de35 2004-04-09T05:15:58Z 2004-04-09T05:15:58Z

<div>Whitechapel <br/>From "The Palace Journal" (April 24, 1889) <br/> <br/>http://www.casebook.org/victorian_london/whitechapel3.html <br/> <br/>So easy...just so damn easy... </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 0 replies </div>

eris 2004-04-09T05:15:58Z DaMom http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/37ae8b61-1c31-4958-bda4-2e7b449ff27b 2004-04-05T01:17:48Z 2004-03-25T15:08:47Z

<div> I read somewhere that an artist may have been the killer, but can't remember his name. It was stated that several years after the White Chapel killings, similar killings started again, in another area. <br/> I know this is not much info, but, I suffer from CRS///( Can't Remember S**t ) Anyone have any info on this?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 4 replies </div>

DaMom 2004-03-25T15:08:47Z K http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/5d4e267a-fb05-4d18-ba2c-56cf2a1fed6f 2004-03-31T00:54:42Z 2004-03-30T01:41:42Z

<div>Raven asked a good question in her "OGD" thread: Why are we so fascinated with the Whitechapel killings? The Ripper was certainly not the first serial killer, nor the most prolific or the only one not to be caught. <br/> <br/>I think it's really a combination of factors. First, the society was changing. The plight of the lower- and middle-classes was beginning to be recognized and efforts were being made to do something about it. People were beginning to stand up and demand better treatment, i.e. the vigilance committees and the trade unions. <br/> <br/>Police work was changing as well. While police work depended largely on Bobbies on the beat, forensic science was just getting started. Some of the first crime scene photos were taken in the Ripper investigation, including the infamous photos of Mary Jane Kelly’s apartment. Coroners also played a role. The only real hope of catching the killer depended on catching him in the act, but detectives from the Municipal Police (Scotland Yard) and the City of London played a role. <br/> <br/>You also had the rise of the media. The newspapers were just beginning to be a factor in society. The "journalists" of the day swarmed over the Whitechapel killings like locusts and a case can be made that the Ripper was the first big media case. <br/> <br/>Then you had the dichotomies of the society that the case threw into focus. You had everything from the well-off police commissioner to middle class detectives and prostitutes who were considered below the lowest level of society. The crimes forced the society to look at the problems among the lower classes in Whitechapel in particular and the lower classes in general. <br/> <br/>And there are the killings themselves. Here's someone who comes out of nowhere and starts butchering women. The killings get more savage and the mutilations worse as the murders progress. Then they stopped cold. That's another big part of it, I think, that there was no closure to the case. We can speculate endlessly. I once heard an expert on the case say that if they came out tomorrow and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt who the killer was, it wouldn't stop the speculation. People just love a mystery. That reminds me of a story I heard about the case of Anna Anderson, the woman who claimed to be the Grand Duchess Anastasia. Anastasia was murdered during the Russian Revolution, but Anderson claimed to be her. When they found the bodies of the Romanovs they were able to extract DNA and compare it to Anderson’s. I saw a TV show where some rabid supporters of Anderson’s were gushing about how thrilled they were with the test and that they’d accept the results either way. When the results showed Anderson wasn’t Anastasia, the supporters refused to accept the results. <br/> <br/>So, what does everyone think? Any other thoughts? Comments? Criticism?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 7 replies </div>

K 2004-03-30T01:41:42Z K http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/4c678402-ca6f-4c25-9bfb-8893bd2dda87 2004-03-23T06:02:07Z 2004-03-14T15:50:09Z

<div>I don't know about anyone else, but I vividly recall the first time I saw the photos of the Mary Jane Kelly crime scene. I'm going to upload them when I get done writing this. I honestly couldn't tell what I was looking at when I first saw it. There was nothing in the photo that looked like a human being, it was just a pile of meat. Then I saw the thigh-bone and had a frame-of-reference, something to anchor my eye. Then I saw what was left of her eyes and face. I just can't imagine what her last moments must have been like. Of all the victims, I think my heart goes out to Kelly the most.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 5 replies </div>

K 2004-03-14T15:50:09Z K http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/e2f05c59-1717-45b8-b3b2-91f2ce75db8f 2004-03-22T19:12:03Z 2004-03-21T23:45:26Z

<div>Here's the URL to a very, very good website on the case. It has more information in more areas than I can mention here, including details on Victorian London, possible victims beyond the accepted five and on and on. Hope it's a good resource for you. <br/> <br/>http://www.casebook.org/</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 1 reply </div>

K 2004-03-21T23:45:26Z K http://ripperjack.tribe.net/thread/9b7f1f47-bc92-4923-822c-0a91fc806094 2004-03-21T13:55:25Z 2004-03-14T20:15:52Z

<div>Hey, <br/>I've posted some photos of the five accepted victims, three of the prime suspects and two of the most famous letters. I put the victims' photos in because I believe it's very important not to lose sight of what this jackass did to these women. The way serial killers are romanticized absolutely drives me nuts. There's nothing romantic about what these men, especially the Whitechapel killer, do to their victims. We need to remember them.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://ripperjack.tribe.net">Jack the Ripper</a> - 2 replies </div>

K 2004-03-14T20:15:52Z